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Hello again, Here is an update on what I now know about Ralph Van Den Bok\'s service with 408.He was A) British,not Canadian. B) At the time of his service with 408,he was not a pilot,but a WOP/AG C) In 1942,he flew an \"op\" ,probably to Saarbrucken,in ,I think,a Hampden piloted by the squadron CO, Wing Commander Twigg, RCAF.On the return journey, they were attacked,possibly by Major Wilhelm Herget, and shot down. Wing Commander Twigg,& I think,his navigator ,were killed,but F/O Van Den Bok and a colleague,survived,evaded capture, and returned to England. But I have NO details of the attack, or whether the two survivors bailed out,or crash landed.Does anyone know please ?? Van Den Bok eventually became a B17 pilot,stayed in the RAF until 1955,then left following injury in a train-crash !! Given the death of squadron CO ,Wing Commander Twigg, there must surely be a squadron record of it somewhere ?? Roger Mills